Andrew G. Suderman, professor of Bible, theology and religion, and his wife, Karen, with children Samantha and James, and Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu in 2019. (Courtesy photo)

Professor Andrew Suderman on ‘Lessons learned from Tutu’

When the news of Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu’s death was announced the day after Christmas 2021 Eastern Mennonite Seminary associate director Sarah Bixler reminded EMU News that the most recent intercultural group that traveled to South Africa had been fortunate enough to spend time with the legendary peacebuilder.

Learn more about that trip at the EMU Intercultural Blog and on the intercultural website.

Students on the 2019 summer intercultural led by Professor Andrew Suderman and his wife Karen pose for a photo with Archbishop Desmond Tutu. (Courtesy photo)

That group was led by Andrew G. Suderman, professor of Bible, theology and religion, and his wife, Karen, then director of EMU’s Intensive English Program (currently a teacher at Eastern Mennonite High School). That was the fifth time the Suderman family had met Tutu. 

The first occasion was in 2014 when the couple, representing Mennonite Church Canada, helped to coordinate the Anabaptist Network in South Africa (ANiSA).

With children Samantha and James, they had gone to an early morning Eucharist service at the historic St. George’s Cathedral in Cape Town. When 9-month-old James became fussy, Karen started to take him to the back of the chapel. “You’re not taking the baby away, are you?” Tutu asked, after he concluded the prayer. “You’re not running away, are you? You must stay; we like his voice.” 

The Suderman family with Archbishop Tutu in 2014.

We’re grateful that Andrew took some time to share reflections on meeting and learning from Archbishop Tutu. And some wonderful family photos, too.


December 26, 2021, was a sad day. That was the day the world learned of Desmond Mpilo Tutu’s death. The world lost a giant moral figure in a very small physical frame.

My family and I had the privilege of meeting Tata (Father) Tutu five times; four times while we lived in South Africa and once while we took a class of U.S. students to South Africa to learn about its story. Each of our children were touched and blessed by the Arch. (He often spent a considerable amount of time playing peek-a-boo with our children!)

Tata Tutu will rightly be remembered for his faithful and steadfast witness to God’s desire for justice, peace, and reconciliation in our world. Although this work and his witness emerged in the struggle against apartheid and its racially segregated social engineering project, it did not end there. He campaigned for peace, justice, and reconciliation in many other areas. He spoke   out against the Iraq war; he called into question the ongoing dynamics in the middle east and the neo-apartheid reality that Israel has created; he challenged internal church-related issues such as LGBTQ inclusion; and much more. Much can be (and will be!) said about all of this. I want to focus on three particular lessons that I gleaned from Tata Tutu.

 1) “If you want peace, you don’t talk to your friends. You talk to your enemies.” 

Tutu became renowned for the way in which he challenged the apartheid regime and its system of hatred and violence. And yet his prophetic challenge was consistently invitational. In calling out the apartheid regime and its violent and hate-filled policies, he would always invite the actors that enacted apartheid’s policies to step away from its policies and join the struggle against apartheid’s dehumanizing ways.

“You may have the guns,” he would say; “you may have all this power, but you have already lost. Come: join the winning side.”

Tutu recognized that the apartheid system did not only dehumanize those which it subjugated, but it dehumanized those who perpetuated apartheid’s policies as well.

2) We are all interconnected. 

Tutu was perhaps one of the greatest proponents of ubuntu, a concept that highlights one’s interconnectedness with everything and everyone. It originates from the Nguni group of languages and has become short form for umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu, which means “a person is a person because of other people.” Tutu recognized and helped us recognize the ways in which we are interconnected. Throughout the struggle against apartheid and the early years of South Africa’s democracy, the concept of ubuntu highlighted the way in which apartheid and its separation and exclusion attacked not only one’s dignity, but one’s humanity!

Tutu regularly referenced the notion of ubuntu as he challenged the logic and separating practice of apartheid. “My humanity,” he would remind people, “is bound up, is inextricably bound, with yours; and yours with mine” (No Future without Forgiveness, 31). It was precisely this understanding of interconnection that motivated Tutu’s work to not only free those that the apartheid system described as “not-white,” but free the oppressor as well!

Ubuntu means that in a real sense even the supporters of apartheid were victims of the vicious system which they implemented and which they supported so enthusiastically. Our humanity was intertwined. The humanity of the perpetrator of apartheid’s atrocities was caught up and bound up in that of his victim whether he liked it or not. In the process of dehumanising another, in inflicting untold harm and suffering, the perpetrator was inexorably being dehumanised as well.” (No Future without Forgiveness, 35)

3) Reconciliation, therefore, becomes central.

 If working for peace means confronting and talking with your enemies, and if this is done because we are all interconnected, then reconciliation is both necessary and a logical outcome. Tutu reminded people that reconciliation means to work at restoring right relationships. Wherever injustice and oppression exist, relationships are not right, things are not as they should be. Thus, reconciliation should not become equated with some form of “soft” attempt to try to find middle ground.

Tutu was unequivocal that God was found among those who are oppressed, exploited, and dehumanized. Reconciliation was not an effort to find or negotiate some kind of middle ground. Rather, the work towards reconciliation recognizes that relationships with fellow humans, with creation, and with God are broken. Reconciliation, therefore, was an active way by which to envision and live into a new reality that was not determined by past brokenness. Reconciliation sought to imagine and establish new relationships that could offer a better expression of God’s desired justice and peace now in this world.

 Not only will I miss Tutu’s infectious laugh, I will miss Tutu’s tireless pursuit toward a better and life-giving future. We have lost not only an incredible role model; we have lost one of God’s champions for a more just and reconciled world.

 Rest well, Tata. May we seek to embody the many lessons you have provided  in our quest to make God’s kingdom a reality on earth as it is in heaven.

See below for a comment from retired EMU professor Harlan de Brun about several other crosscultural* groups that met with then-Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

The 2009 cross-cultural to South Africa, led by Harlan de Brun. (Courtesy photo)

* EMU’s cross-cultural program was renamed Intercultural Programs, a title that more accurately reflects the experience, in 2021.

Discussion on “Professor Andrew Suderman on ‘Lessons learned from Tutu’

  1. Thank you for the encouragement for me to move toward reconciliation between the two political perspectives in the USA. Your capsule of Tutu’s perspective brings to mind the concept of finding “the third way” which the Church of the Brethren “On Earth Peace” organization along with others have been proposing while working towards reconciliation.
    If : me = @,
    and # = them, we
    come together, talk, listen exquisitely,
    @ /\ & . We can develop a third way
    “_ ”
    Now we can work together: ^
    (I have not found a tech method to make a triangle!, so connect the lines), now we have a way, new to both sides, with all party’s commited to “the third way”, the way toward
    “. . . .A better expression of God’s desired justice and peace now in this world”, to use your fitting phrase.
    In rereading your words I see I may be missing Tutu’s basis of developing relationships between persons, … .
    I do need to learn more!
    How do I join the discussion of Tutu’s lessons?
    Thank you for sharing these 3 lessons,

    Joyce Weaver, (71)

  2. Many of the EMU CCs that I led ( 2005-2012) had meaningful encounters with Archbishop Tutu. After the first time I met Tutu, he extended an invitation to bring any future CCs to meet him at St. George’s Cathedral for communion and that we did!

    EMU Close Encounters with Archbishop Tutu 2005 -2012
    The story began much earlier when I witnessed an enthusiastic crowd gathered around a small, but compelling man at the Bloemfontein Airport. It flashed through my mind that this could be Desmond Tutu. I knew he had been Archbishop of Lesotho at one time.
    Taking a chance, I called out in Sesotho, “Dumela Ntate Tutu! U phela joang? ” He immediately wheeled around and called me over. When I explained that I was Mennonite, he grinned and said with a grin of familiarity, “The Peace Church, they are always doing great work.” He then invited me and the EMU students to meet him personally for communion. He officiates the services at St. George’s Cathedral in Capetown, South Africa.

    That was the original encounter that led to many more. Two that come to mind as outstanding and memorable events were when the EMU students attended a communion service at St. George’s. A young lady in a wheelchair was pushed up to the altar to receive communion . A pregnant pause followed. Several of my male students, realizing that she could not ascend to the altar to receive communion, immediately stood up and looked at me. I nodded in approval to communicate: go ahead. Four of them lifted and carried the young lady in her wheelchair up the steps to the altar. Tutu bowed and thanked them. After, she was carefully carried down the steps from the altar with tears in her eyes. After this moving experience Archbishop Tutu asked us to meet and talk with him over tea in the church coffee shop.

    The second event also took place at St. George’s Cathedral which is renowned for its great acoustics. As the cathedral was empty, we decided to sing, 606 , “Praise God From Whom all Blessings Flow.” The Archbishop heard us and came from his office. He exclaimed, “I thought it was angels singing!” He then extended an invitation for us to sing at Sunday’s service. Unfortunately, to all of our regrets, we had to leave.. These events left the CC students with an enduring and meaningful experience which made quite an impact on them.

    –Harlan de Brun, former crosscultural leader

  3. We never met Bishop Tutu, but Pat’s parents (working in a seminary in Nigeria) and brother Darrel (worked in Swaziland) met him several times. So when Pat and I edited a collection of reflections of international workers called, “World Winds,” we wrote Tutu and asked him if he would consider writing a foreward to the book. We expected, at best, a return letter asking more details and due dates and so forth. Instead, to our surprise and delight, the return mail from him was the foreward itself! He blessed us and the book by saying “Thanks be to God for “World Winds: Meditations from the Blessed of the Earth” which help us to tune in to God’s wavelength.”

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